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Omniclasm · Oct 13, 2007, 11:17 PM // 23:17

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Originally Posted by Cold Hearted Zero

lol its called work for what u want,

geez this so called grind in gw is absolute nth, look at other games and u will see what real grind is

First....Work =/= Game
Second...change your guild in your avatar, it is wrong.

Ctb · Oct 13, 2007, 11:29 PM // 23:29

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Anyone still complaining is complaining about having to play the game at all

Yea, because I don't equate playing with randomly killing things for no apparent reason.

I don't know why some people seem so intellectually limited around here. It's not that difficult. Some of us don't like GWEN titles. We don't want titles. We don't care about titles. We want a game to play that is challenging and fun, and we don't think stupid titles are fun. I don't care if ANet maxes all my titles, I'm still not going to be happy, because I spent $40 on a weak content expansion with a huge emphasis on pointless titles.

What's so complicated about that? What is confusing your poor, haggard mind in relation to that complaint? Titles weren't fun five years ago when they were in Asheron's Call, they're not fun now in any of the dozen grindfests out there, including GWEN. If YOU like it, fine, but that doesn't mean I do, and I'm probably never going to.

In before some retard says if I don't care I should say anything about it even though I'm only responding to someone else's topic.

Karyuu · Oct 13, 2007, 11:36 PM // 23:36

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Originally Posted by Ctb

Some of us don't like GWEN titles. We don't want titles. We don't care about titles. We want a game to play that is challenging and fun, and we don't think stupid titles are fun.

That's nice. Some of us think otherwise. If you're not having fun, then please look for something else instead of wasting your time here. What are you accomplishing?

Vinraith · Oct 13, 2007, 11:58 PM // 23:58

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Originally Posted by Ctb

Yea, because I don't equate playing with randomly killing things for no apparent reason.

You don't have to any more. I don't know why you insistently don't get that, and I don't care. Turn in a handbook, do some quests, and you're done. No random repetitive killing required. Now quit whining.

Ctb · Oct 14, 2007, 12:03 AM // 00:03

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That's nice. Some of us think otherwise. If you're not having fun, then please look for something else instead of wasting your time here.

Like I already said: in before retard who blames me for responding to something someone else started.

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You don't have to any more.

You really are so insanely self-centered that you just can't understand this, aren't you? You really just can't fathom that other people may be displeased with a product that you are pleased with, can you? You just can't imagine that anybody would disagree with you.

Incredible. Truly incredible.

Effendi Westland · Oct 14, 2007, 12:11 AM // 00:11

wtb title tracks not linked to skills.

Kakumei · Oct 14, 2007, 12:41 AM // 00:41

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Originally Posted by Ctb

Like I already said: in before retard who blames me for responding to something someone else started.

in before catchphrase oh wait too late

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You really are so insanely self-centered that you just can't understand this, aren't you? You really just can't fathom that other people may be displeased with a product that you are pleased with, can you? You just can't imagine that anybody would disagree with you.

Incredible. Truly incredible.

What the hell? What's "self-centered" about informing you that you don't need to grind a title to get what you want anymore? If anything, it sounds like Vinraith is trying to help you.

It's fine if you (not just you, ctb, all of you) didn't like Eye of the North. That's perfectly fine and dandy, people have different tastes, et cetera. But why on earth you people spend so much of your time complaining about a product that doesn't really have very much objectively wrong with it--short length and recycled content are generally its major flaws.

I know, you spent $40 on a product you're not happy with. I'm sorry. It happens. You make bad purchases, you regret them, and you move on. It's like buying a case of a new soda, deciding you don't like it, and then writing letter after letter to Pepsi Co. telling them how unsatisfied you were with their new product.

Let it go. Some people are very happy with Eye of the North, and this update has only made the game better.

william1975 · Oct 14, 2007, 12:49 AM // 00:49

this is a fantastic update, and i may actually decide to try to max thse on some of my other charcaters. Already from vanquishing 5 of the norn maps and completign two of the hero quest i have jumped up from 60k to 110k.

it takes some work but its fun and worth it. obviously woudl taek longer normally without the weekend event. I handed in a completed hero book normal mode, paid 800 gold to fill in 8 pages and got 20k of asuran reputation 40k of xp and 4k of gold, damn that was a good investment!

I'm now tryign to fill in the hard mode book lol, hope to do that over a few days

Vinraith · Oct 14, 2007, 01:07 AM // 01:07

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What the hell? What's "self-centered" about informing you that you don't need to grind a title to get what you want anymore? If anything, it sounds like Vinraith is trying to help you.

Yup, at this point he's complaining about things that aren't true anymore, but still manages to fling in a few personal insults for anyone with the gall to point out to him that his complaints have been addressed. I'm beginning to understand how Anet customer service must feel.

Operative 14 · Oct 14, 2007, 02:47 AM // 02:47

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Finish the game and hand in a heroes handbook and you get 20k faction of your choice. So yes, there is, and it's huge. Do the same in hard mode and it's even better. At this point all you have to do to get rank 5 in the track of your choice is play through the game and do some quests in that area. That's IT. Anyone still complaining is complaining about having to play the game at all, from what I can tell, or hasn't read the update.

Ah, okay. I did read the update, but I couldn't understand what they meant. This makes things easier now.

Still, I stand by the idea that the titles should not have anything to do with aquiring items.

freekedoutfish · Oct 14, 2007, 10:13 AM // 10:13

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Originally Posted by Ctb

Yea, because I don't equate playing with randomly killing things for no apparent reason.

I don't know why some people seem so intellectually limited around here. It's not that difficult. Some of us don't like GWEN titles. We don't want titles. We don't care about titles. .

Then dont increase the titles past rank 5 (which is easy to get). No one is forcing you. How could such an intellectual person think otherwise!

Your only annoyed because you want your nice pve only skills, maxed out without havng to use the ranks.

Yet your intellectual self, doesnt seem to grasp that those pve only skills arent critical to anything and they are just as effective at lower ranks.

No one is forcing you to do any of the grinding stuff ingame. its all optional. If you then spend hours increasn norn, asura, vanguard or drawf ranks becuse your ego wants stronger skills and wants to be better then Joe Blogg next to you... thats your own daft fault.

Theus · Oct 14, 2007, 10:37 AM // 10:37

I'm pretty sure the whole reason why people are complaining about grind is the fact that GW:EN has about as much depth storywise as a teaspoon.

It takes what?10 hours or so to complete GW:EN?Maybe even less?

Cacheelma · Oct 14, 2007, 10:50 AM // 10:50

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Originally Posted by Theus

I'm pretty sure the whole reason why people are complaining about grind is the fact that GW:EN has both as much depth storywise as a teaspoon.

It takes what?10 hours or so to complete GW:EN?Maybe even less?

Don't speak sense, it doesn't belong here.

Can't you see? This is just another Anet's worshipping ground.

milan · Oct 14, 2007, 10:58 AM // 10:58

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Originally Posted by Cacheelma

Don't speak sense, it doesn't belong here.

Can't you see? This is just another Anet's worshipping ground.

There is a really big clue that perhaps you missed 'Fan site'.

GWEN is shorter than I would have liked yes, but then again I can complete faction and nightfall in 10 hours as well.

If you are really that dissatisfied with the expansion simply don't play it. Yes it sucks to buy something that you then turn out not to like but we've all done it at some point in our lives. The difference between you and most other people is the ability to get over it and move on.

Darkobra · Oct 14, 2007, 11:06 AM // 11:06

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Originally Posted by Theus

I'm pretty sure the whole reason why people are complaining about grind is the fact that GW:EN has about as much depth storywise as a teaspoon.

It takes what?10 hours or so to complete GW:EN?Maybe even less?

Definitely less. I completed Nightfall in a day. It was a mistake I didn't want to repeat with GW:EN. 2 days and that was me REAAAAAALLY dragging it out and doing everything.

VitisVinifera · Oct 14, 2007, 11:16 AM // 11:16

gw is the illusion that grind = content

eotn is probably the least content / greatest grind introduced of any expansion, and I go way back.........this sh1t is shallow as a teaspoon, as was said

ParanoidDenny · Oct 14, 2007, 11:51 AM // 11:51

Maybe the reason EotN was so short, looked rushed and quickly put out for a profit is because it's a free to play MMO, had it been a sub based game maybe a better structured, better looking, more content, better layed out game would have been released.

Cold Hearted Zero · Oct 14, 2007, 11:53 AM // 11:53

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Originally Posted by Omniclasm

First....Work =/= Game
Second...change your guild in your avatar, it is wrong.

work: exertion or effort directed to produce or accomplish something.

grind to accomplish something

and yea forgot to change my guild in avatar :P ty ^^ but how did u know it was wrong :S ?

about the grind in gw. Tbh im glad there is some grind in it, it keeps people busy while they make more stuff for the game.

cba to write more :S

blue.rellik · Oct 14, 2007, 12:00 PM // 12:00

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Originally Posted by Kakumei

What the hell? What's "self-centered" about informing you that you don't need to grind a title to get what you want anymore? If anything, it sounds like Vinraith is trying to help you.

It's fine if you (not just you, ctb, all of you) didn't like Eye of the North. That's perfectly fine and dandy, people have different tastes, et cetera. But why on earth you people spend so much of your time complaining about a product that doesn't really have very much objectively wrong with it--short length and recycled content are generally its major flaws.

I know, you spent $40 on a product you're not happy with. I'm sorry. It happens. You make bad purchases, you regret them, and you move on. It's like buying a case of a new soda, deciding you don't like it, and then writing letter after letter to Pepsi Co. telling them how unsatisfied you were with their new product.

Let it go. Some people are very happy with Eye of the North, and this update has only made the game better.

QFT, I endorse everything said in here. While EotN was nice when it came out (because of Jora and Livia mainly), HM made it much more fun and rewarding to redo quests and dungeons

bel unbreakable · Oct 14, 2007, 12:32 PM // 12:32

just wondering what people think is beating the game?
rushing through doing only the primarys then yes its shallow
but i think your mising out on most of the content .and in my opinion
have no right to moan about any thing

if on the other hand you have beat the primarys done the 18 dungeons
and all the side quests if you still dont like it then yes you can moan.

and to the lvl 4 dude i had an argument with in droknars yes im a noob
and no not everyone gets run every where to get the max armour.
some of us like to work for our shit.

not sure but id imagine having to actualy play the game to get the cool armour was the goal of a-net in the first place

last time i looked this was a pve game you know quests missions killing stuff.
you do the work you get the reward

as for grind it all reative i love getting my titles love farming so its not grind ever in fact id love a lot more.